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    Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming
    February 2nd, 2011 ║ Posted By: John Pennington

    Clay Travis of Fanhouse.com is reporting this evening that the NCAA will cite the Tennessee football program, former coach Lane Kiffin and and his former assistant David Reaves for failing to monitor a violation involving UT’s now defunct Orange Pride hostess program.

    The charge relates to improper recruiting contacts made by UT coaches and hostesses. But Travis also reports that the NCAA investigation into improper contacts “was much more wide-ranging and includes alleged violations that do not implicate the hostess program at all.”

    “In its investigation, the NCAA has determined that Reaves, then an assistant at Tennessee, made improper contact with recruits as well as providing written and oral instruction to the Vol hostesses about which top recruits to contact, how to contact them, and asked for updates on those conversations, which occurred either via Facebook, text message or phone call.”

    Think that might explain why Kiffin did not ask Reaves — his brother-in-law — to join his staff at Southern Cal?

    Once the NCAA sends UT its official letter of allegations, the school will have 90 days to respond. To date, Reaves has denied providing direction to members of the Orange Pride group.

    Here’s the rub for Tennessee and Kiffin — NCAA attorney Mark Jones told Travis that “failure to monitor allegations are almost always classified as a major violation.” It’s possible that the NCAA’s penalties would be small… or large. It’s also possible that Tennessee could bear the brunt of the sanctions… or Kiffin could, even though he has departed Knoxville. With the NCAA, there’s really no telling what the Vols, Kiffin and Reaves could be looking at in terms of punishment.

    And remember, the NCAA has also been looking into the Tennessee baseball and basketball programs. But if the NCAA decides to handle all three programs’ issues separately — as this story seems to imply — then UT might escape the dreaded “lack of institutional control” charge.

    http://www.mrsec.com/2011/02/vols-ge...may-be-coming/


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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    And is it any coincidence that Southern Cal has the #1 recruiting class this year (per Rivals) even with sanctions?
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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    Here is Reave's dad John in some bush league action for the Gators lol!


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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    If the facts show the university as an entity acted inappropriately then the punishment is painful but fair. However if facts show Kiffin was the root cause and the university still gets hit thats gonna re-open some old wounds. It's like some skank you married ran off with the pool boy and 2 years later her bill collector shows up with a fat bill and little sympathy. I will be straight up and say I hoped in the guy even though other fanbases were warning Vol fans he's gonna **** the bed, and he did. That guy deserves to be banned from coaching...but through every crisis he comes out smellin like a rose stiffin someone else with the bill and a mess to clean up.
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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerT98 View Post
    If the facts show the university as an entity acted inappropriately then the punishment is painful but fair. However if facts show Kiffin was the root cause and the university still gets hit thats gonna re-open some old wounds. It's like some skank you married ran off with the pool boy and 2 years later her bill collector shows up with a fat bill and little sympathy. I will be straight up and say I hoped in the guy even though other fanbases were warning Vol fans he's gonna **** the bed, and he did. That guy deserves to be banned from coaching...but through every crisis he comes out smellin like a rose stiffin someone else with the bill and a mess to clean up.
    I feel bad for you guys.

    Feel sure it was Kiffin, not so much UT. I remember saying when Kiffin fled town that it was a fortunate thing for you guys, that he would have destroyed you if he had stayed long enough, and I still believe that. He had no place here in this Conference. I hope this isn't too bad, and when this is done you can wash yourself of Kiffin forever.

    He can't damage you anymore after this.


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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    Quote Originally Posted by IveyLeaguer View Post
    I feel bad for you guys.

    Feel sure it was Kiffin, not so much UT. I remember saying when Kiffin fled town that it was a fortunate thing for you guys, that he would have destroyed you if he had stayed long enough, and I still believe that. He had no place here in this Conference. I hope this isn't too bad, and when this is done you can wash yourself of Kiffin forever.

    He can't damage you anymore after this.

    I feel like you work at a battered woman's clinic. I kid I kid.


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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    It sucks that UT is going to get hosed here and the guilty party in this case Kiffin gets nothing. Not to derail the thread but I agree something fishy is going on at USC for them to have a top 4 class while on probation. Has that ever happened anywhere else? I also think Herbie is dead wrong when he says people want to go to USC because of the pipeline to the NFL. People want to go to USC for the cars, money and houses.
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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    I think the fact that the NCAA is going after Kiffin and Reaves indicates that any sanctions against UT will be light. I don't remember the last time they sactioned a departed coach for recruiting violations.
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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    Quote Originally Posted by SCBobo85 View Post
    And is it any coincidence that Southern Cal has the #1 recruiting class this year (per Rivals) even with sanctions?
    Not anymore.

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    Re: Vols Get Good News On Signing Day, But Bad News From The NCAA May Be Coming

    This is a crying shame for the Vol fans. I hope whatever sanctions the NCAA throws out land on Kiffin instead of UT.
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