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    Re: No more General Lee at Lee's Circle

    The last state to give up It's slaves was Delaware a Union State, in December of 1865 and only after the passage of the 13th Amendment.

    Let's remember that the Emancipation Proclamation freed only those slaves who were in rebellion: "All slaves in states in rebellion against the Union shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free." Kentucky, Missouri, Delaware and Maryland were allowed to keep their slaves. (http://www.history.com/news/5-things...d-emancipation)

    Mrs. U.S. Grant traveled with her husband on many of his campaigns during the war, reportedly covering some 10,000 miles. She and "her slaves" were captured briefly by a contingent of Terry's Texas Rangers during he Vicksburg campaign before being escorted to Union lines (with apologies). Mrs. Grant was labeled "Seccesh" by many on Grant's staff who decried the example her salves an her slave holding father set for the Army. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Grant) Mrs. Grant's favorite slave, Black Julia, wrote a memoir of her travels with the First Lady after the war.

    It's never as black and white (no pun intended) as it seems, gentlemen.

    I retain a lot of historical minutia like this. Worthless mostly, but always keen to share.
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    Re: No more General Lee at Lee's Circle

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Some Hog Dude View Post
    Socialism didn't cause human suffering. It was the capitalist response to it that caused the suffering.

    Vladimir Lenin was a hero. He wasn't a slave master. He tried to get rid of the slave masters. Unfortunately the good guys are losing right now but hopefully they will win in the end.
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    Re: No more General Lee at Lee's Circle

    Quote Originally Posted by Naval Aviator View Post
    The last state to give up It's slaves was Delaware a Union State, in December of 1865 and only after the passage of the 13th Amendment.

    Let's remember that the Emancipation Proclamation freed only those slaves who were in rebellion: "All slaves in states in rebellion against the Union shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free." Kentucky, Missouri, Delaware and Maryland were allowed to keep their slaves. (http://www.history.com/news/5-things...d-emancipation)

    Mrs. U.S. Grant traveled with her husband on many of his campaigns during the war, reportedly covering some 10,000 miles. She and "her slaves" were captured briefly by a contingent of Terry's Texas Rangers during he Vicksburg campaign before being escorted to Union lines (with apologies). Mrs. Grant was labeled "Seccesh" by many on Grant's staff who decried the example her salves an her slave holding father set for the Army. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Grant) Mrs. Grant's favorite slave, Black Julia, wrote a memoir of her travels with the First Lady after the war.

    It's never as black and white (no pun intended) as it seems, gentlemen.

    I retain a lot of historical minutia like this. Worthless mostly, but always keen to share.
    This all wonderful, bit it was black and white why the south left. Just look at their seccession papers.

    Tidbits like your dont change that reality.

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