+ Reply to Thread
Page 31 of 68 FirstFirst ... 21262728293031323334353641 ... LastLast
Results 301 to 310 of 674

Thread: the Russian Probe

  1. #301
    Master Gunnery Sergeant FreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forumsFreddieMac has a great deal of respect on the forums FreddieMac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    14,718
    Rep Power
    2314813

    Re: the Russian Probe

    So what is new in the world of Russo-Trumpian relations. Did we sell Russian any more uranium in exchange for a massive donation to Trump's charity?
    I have made my peace with Les Miles, I want him to stay. Go away Michigan. It is is not the 11 games winning seasons or the Yoda like press conferences. He eats grass and knows Tiger Stadium grass taste best! That is a special brand of crazy I want to see of years to come! GEAUX TIGERS!

  2. #302
    President - RNT Fan Club Elvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forums Elvis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    26,304
    Rep Power
    1035148

    Re: the Russian Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    It's the same excuse my kids use when punished for acting stupid.... Everyone is doing it and you are just out of touch.
    This is about as clear a case for motivated as exists in the world today.
    For example, the fact that the Clinton foundation received money while HRC was at the State department was one of the foundational reasons why they claimed HRC was untrustworthy and unelectable.

    However, the fact that Kushner received $258 million in a loan from Deutsch bank with ties to Russia, Jr. went to go meet with a foreign official for the express purpose of obtaining information against a political opponent, the fact that Trump fired the head of the FBI for "the whole Russia thing" etc. All of this is a gigantic "nothingburger".

    At some point, there is no point in continuing the conversation. They have made their stance very clear. Nothing that Trump or his team has said or done warrants an investigation. This is all "fake news" and a "witch hunt". etc. etc. It's clear by this point that these guys are going to root for their team no matter what. We can only hope they represent a minority of the American public.
    2006 - Year of the Elvis
    2007 - Year of the Oil Baron
    2008 - Year of the Fab Five
    2012 - Year of the Stud
    Best of:
    Quote Originally Posted by USC90
    Elvis will have to ... what am I thinking, E is going to do whatever he wants to do anyway,
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg in Dallas
    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba

  3. #303
    Corporal Spock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forums Spock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Roswell Georgia
    Age
    57
    Posts
    470
    Rep Power
    570531

    Re: the Russian Probe

    One column cannot accommodate the list of things you must believe if you trust that Donald Trump is truly the victim of a baseless witch hunt. Consider this a mere stab.
    1. That Donald Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner did nothing wrong by meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian offering dirt on Clinton. The emails requesting the meeting specifically mentioned a “Russian government attorney” and added that the requested meeting concerned “very high level and sensitive information” that “is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” That doesn’t prove a willingness to collude.
    2. That concern about Paul Manafort’s extensive links with Putin’s former puppet in Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, including at least $12.7 million in payments, is, to quote Manafort’s words, “silly and nonsensical.”
    3. That Jared Kushner’s attempt, during the transition, to secure a back channel with the Russian government using their secure communications equipment in the Russian embassy was not alarming/inexplicable.
    4. That Donald Trump’s stubborn refusal ever to breathe a critical word about Vladimir Putin, even as he has freely criticized U.S. allies, or acknowledge Russian meddling in our election, is not strange.
    5. That Michael Flynn’s firing after less than a month on the job was really just because he had misled Mike Pence.
    6. That Donald Trump’s pressure on Comey to go soft on Flynn was purely a measure of loyalty/friendship from a person who has rarely shown those traits before.
    7. That James Comey’s firing, at least according to evolving White House accounts, was due to his mishandling of the Hillary file, no wait, due to poor management of the FBI, which was suffering from low morale, um, no because of two factual errors Comey made in congressional testimony. Finally, that it was over the “Russia thing” but this only shows that Trump was an innocent man frustrated by Comey’s unwillingness to clear him publicly.
    8. That it was irrelevant that Trump told the Russian ambassador and foreign minister in the Oval Office the day after Comey’s sacking that the FBI director was a “nut job” whose removal had relieved “great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
    9. It’s pure coincidence that one of the only foreign-policy advisers on the Trump campaign was Carter Page, who was under FBI investigation for Russia ties. In Moscow, he gave a speech denouncing U.S. policy, saying, “Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption, and regime change.” Anti-anti-corruption isn’t disturbing.
    10. That White House objections to sanctions against Russia, which passed the Senate 98–2, are purely procedural.
    11. That former Manafort partner and Trump surrogate Roger Stone, who boasted about links to WikiLeaks founder and America hater Julian Assange, and accurately predicted in August 2016 that John Podesta would be next “in the barrel,” was just lucky.
    12. That statements by Eric and Donald Jr. about Russian financial ties are not revealing. Golf writer James Dodson quoted Eric as explaining in 2014 how the Trump organization was able to get financing for various golf courses even after the Great Recession. “Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.” Donald Trump Jr., who also traveled to Russia frequently, spoke at a 2008 real-estate conference and noted that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” When Donald Trump stated that “I have zero investments in Russia,” he did not say that Russia had zero investments in him, but we should believe his other claim that “I have nothing to do with Russia.”
    13. That Mr. Trump’s failure to release his tax returns, despite repeated promises to do so, is because he is under audit.
    14. That it’s unremarkable that presidential spokeswoman Sarah Sanders refuses to say whether Russia is an adversary, a friend, or a nation about whom we should be wary.
    15. That Donald Trump is the first president since 1949 to cast doubt on America’s commitment to NATO, but this is overdue and good for the U.S.
    16. That Donald Trump’s obsessive attacks on “fake news” are not an attempt to inoculate himself against future revelations but just good old-fashioned, right-wing hatred of liberals.
    Logic gets you from A to Z, curiosity takes you everywhere else

  4. #304
    Sergeant Major of SEC Fanatics Corps Dr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forums Dr.SwineSmeller's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    White House
    Posts
    19,328
    Rep Power
    3043118

    Re: the Russian Probe

    They can't get dad so they go for his son's throat. What was famous statement about a basket of deplorables?
    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    This isn't rocket science, Elroy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    DawginDallas is a devout republican. He is a prized doublenaut operative in the camp of the republicans.

  5. #305
    President - RNT Fan Club Elvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forumsElvis has a great deal of respect on the forums Elvis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    26,304
    Rep Power
    1035148

    Re: the Russian Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    They can't get dad so they go for his son's throat. What was famous statement about a basket of deplorables?
    You've gone off script. On the contrary, the POTUS is defending his son as if he is a politician. Thus, I think it is only fair that we treat him as his father wants us to treat him.

    Importantly, we can now discard the idea that the meeting was about "adoptions". Just using trump's own words.
    President Donald Trump claimed again on Monday that “most politicians” would have attended the highly scrutinized meeting his son had with a Kremlin-linked lawyer during the presidential campaign last year.

    As he said last week at a news conference in Paris, Trump said on Twitter on Monday morning that “most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one Don jr attended in order to get info on an opponent.”...

    Opposition researchers from both parties have contested Trump’s claim that such activity is common or accepted practice. Campaigns and political parties regularly seek out unflattering or compromising news stories about their opponents, but experts said last week that accepting help from an adversarial foreign government is rare and a cause for concern.
    and. collusion is normal, get over it. Which is weird since you guys have repeatedly told us that you picked Trump because he wasn't like the other politicians.

    After months of adamantly denying that investigators would find even a shred of evidence pointing to collusion between his campaign and Russia, President Donald Trump is aggressively embracing the view that his son’s cooperation with apparent Russian agents was entirely normal. On Monday, he acknowledged that his son, Donald Trump Jr., met with a Russian lawyer in the hopes of receiving damaging information about Hillary Clinton:....

    Trump’s tweet Monday is his clearest and most unequivocal embrace of the argument that collusion with a foreign country (much less a largely adversarial one) is standard-operating procedure. It confirms that Trump Jr. went to the meeting in order to get the damaging information, closing off a previous argument that the meeting was about adoptions....

    There are several key weaknesses to the “collusion is normal” argument. The first is that members of the Trump team don’t have a great grasp on what normal (politiican) is....

    Second, the idea that other campaigns might have done the same is weak “whatabouttism”—the habit of trying to distract attention by pointing to others’ flaws. The question is not whether campaigns routinely collude with foreign powers, but whether such an action is ethical and legal.... Trump told voters he was not a politician and not beholden to special interests, and he promised to drain the swamp. Now his defense is that he and his aides were acting just like any other politician.

    Then there’s the final problem with embracing collusion as normal: What Trump Jr., Kushner, and Manafort did might well be illegal. In May, Trump Sr. fired FBI Director James Comey, setting off a chain of events that culminated in the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel to investigate, among other things, Russian interference in the election....
    2006 - Year of the Elvis
    2007 - Year of the Oil Baron
    2008 - Year of the Fab Five
    2012 - Year of the Stud
    Best of:
    Quote Originally Posted by USC90
    Elvis will have to ... what am I thinking, E is going to do whatever he wants to do anyway,
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg in Dallas
    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba

  6. #306
    Corporal Spock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forums Spock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Roswell Georgia
    Age
    57
    Posts
    470
    Rep Power
    570531

    Re: the Russian Probe

    Exactly. Don Jr was forced to invite Russian agents to the Trump Tower and just acting a fool while his Dad was in the next room. Unfortunately, Kushner will probably go to jail for lying on the federal disclosure form.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    They can't get dad so they go for his son's throat. What was famous statement about a basket of deplorables?
    Logic gets you from A to Z, curiosity takes you everywhere else

  7. #307
    Sergeant Major of SEC Fanatics Corps Dr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forums Dr.SwineSmeller's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    White House
    Posts
    19,328
    Rep Power
    3043118

    Re: the Russian Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Exactly. Don Jr was forced to invite Russian agents to the Trump Tower and just acting a fool while his Dad was in the next room. Unfortunately, Kushner will probably go to jail for lying on the federal disclosure form.
    Wasn't Don Jr solicited? Not an invite by jr but an answer to a solicitation.

    Correct?
    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    This isn't rocket science, Elroy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    DawginDallas is a devout republican. He is a prized doublenaut operative in the camp of the republicans.

  8. #308

  9. #309
    Sergeant Major of SEC Fanatics Corps Dr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forumsDr.SwineSmeller has a great deal of respect on the forums Dr.SwineSmeller's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    White House
    Posts
    19,328
    Rep Power
    3043118

    Re: the Russian Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    Wasn't Don Jr solicited? Not an invite by jr but an answer to a solicitation.

    Correct?
    Jshd, we all know it was just an old fashioned set up.

    And no, it was not illegal. As we all know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    This isn't rocket science, Elroy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    DawginDallas is a devout republican. He is a prized doublenaut operative in the camp of the republicans.

  10. #310
    Corporal Spock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forumsSpock has a great deal of respect on the forums Spock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Roswell Georgia
    Age
    57
    Posts
    470
    Rep Power
    570531

    Re: the Russian Probe

    So the Russians can actually setup a conference in Trump residence and demand Don Jr, Kushner and Manafort attend the meeting? Wow that's powerful. It's no wonder they can't get their story straight about the meeting purpose or who attended. That's gotta be Kushner's defense on felony charges for falsify disclosure forms.

    SwineSmeller must be one of those russian kids adopted by Don Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    Wasn't Don Jr solicited? Not an invite by jr but an answer to a solicitation.

    Correct?
    Logic gets you from A to Z, curiosity takes you everywhere else

+ Reply to Thread
Page 31 of 68 FirstFirst ... 21262728293031323334353641 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. NCAA Probe of Miami More Flawed Than You Know
    By BamaHoHo in forum Around the NCAA (Non-SEC)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-20-2013, 08:20 PM
  2. NCAA expands Auburn probe
    By HIGHTIDES in forum SEC Football
    Replies: 64
    Last Post: 03-01-2011, 10:42 AM
  3. NCAA probe into UK and 4 players and an agent
    By Storm in forum SEC Basketball
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
  4. Special investigator to probe AG firings...
    By Dawg in Dallas in forum SECFanatics Think Tank
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 09-29-2008, 06:34 PM
  5. VICK INDICTED in dogfighting probe
    By GR8NESS in forum National Football League
    Replies: 94
    Last Post: 07-28-2007, 02:35 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts