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    Re: Comey-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by The Zou View Post
    Did you hold the same opinion when Sessions answered the direct question or did you call for his recusal? Just curios.
    My issue with Sessions is the lie, not the answer. This is something you just deal with on a constant basis in the legal profession. Every word has meaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Zou
    While it is accurate that he was answering in regards to AG, do you suggest that the question/concern isn't relevant to POTUS? That is, to say, that you don't think the intent of the question applies to POTUS? In other words, the congresswoman was strictly concerned with an AG that was recused, and not politically motivated interference in general?
    It's not relevant to the POTUS' conduct. It is relevant to the POTUS' selection for AG. The job responsibilities of the AG and that person's relationship with the FBI director is entirely different than the POTUS and the FBI director.

    So, it's a huge mistake for anyoen to make an inference that Comey meant anything other than what he said. Again, he's a trained lawyer.

    As an aside, what I mean when I say trained lawyer. You're trained to always be truthful. You learn to be very careful with your spoken word, so that you are always answering just what is being asked. Senator McConnell can give a masterclass on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Zou
    In any case, he said it would be a "big deal" -- like... bigger deal than just documenting in a memo.
    not sure how it works in your profession. I document literally every phone call and interaction I make as an attorney throughout the day. If someone calls me and I speak to them for 10 minutes, the time, substance, etc is all documented. Part of the profession is to be a note taker. So, it does not surprise me in the least that someone in law enforcement is trained to document. It's part of the job.

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    I know that this memo has been reported on -- has anyone seen it? Maybe this is a case where the media runs wild on stories that don't accurately portray Mr. Comey's opinions on the matter...
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    we'll see. Issue now is that Mueller is special prosecutor and Comey may not be allowed to testify publicly because of its impact on Mueller.
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    Re: Comey-Gate

    Comey “Friend”, Benjamin Wittes, Outs Himself As Source for New York Times “Comey Memo” Storyline…

    Posted on May 19, 2017
    by sundance


    Long time CTH readers will note we extended well over a year of benefit-of-the-doubt to the motives of former FBI Director James Comey with regard to the severity of his politicized nature and disposition. Throughout the entire Clinton investigation we remained ambivalent to Comey’s motives.

    Indeed it wasn’t until after the Pulse nightclub terrorist attack when Comey obtusely noted the FBI had been contacted (prior to the attack) about the sketchy behavior of Omar Mateen by a ‘random concerned citizen’ -and our finding that the actual ‘citizen’ was the far more substantive St Lucie county sheriff Ken Mascara– that we recognized how far Comey was willing to go to save his political face.

    Yesterday, a friend of James Comey by the name of Benjamin Wittes, editor and writer for lawfare blog, now steps out and admits he was one of the primary sources for the New York Times Comey Memo article (Michael Schmidt); and in so doing outlines the severity of the political nature of the former FBI Director:

    […] I called Schmidt Friday morning after reading his earlier story, which ran the previous evening, about Comey’s dinner with President Trump and the President’s demands at that dinner for a vow of loyalty.

    […] I did this interview on the record because the President that morning was already issuing threatening tweets suggesting that Comey was leaking things, and I didn’t want any room for misunderstanding that any kind of leak had taken place with respect to the information I was providing.

    […] I insisted that Schmidt record the conversation and give me a copy of the recording, so that we had a good record of what was said.

    […] Comey understood Trump’s people as having neither knowledge of nor respect for the independence of the law enforcement function. And he saw it as an ongoing task on his part to protect the rest of the Bureau from improper contacts and interferences from a group of people he did not regard as honorable.

    This was a general preoccupation of Comey’s in the months he and Trump overlapped—and the difference between this relationship and his regard for Obama (which was deep) was profound and palpable. (read full article)


    The gist of Benjamin Wittes outline is that he interpreted his friend -the magnanimous harbinger of truth, justice and the American way- James Comey, as expressing a feeling of undue potential influence by horrible Trump that Comey did not feel with the more well regarded Obama. etc. etc. {insert pearl-clutching/couch-fainting violin music here}

    Except there’s a problem.

    Not only did FBI Director James Comey testify to congress that neither President Trump nor President Obama ever attempt interference; but there are earlier media reports which outlined President Obama’s administration specifically interfering with an investigative intention of FBI Director Comey (emphasis mine):

    March 29th 2017 – Newsweek: FBI Director James Comey attempted to go public as early as the summer of 2016 with information on Russia’s campaign to influence the U.S. presidential election, but Obama administration officials blocked him from doing so, two sources with knowledge of the matter tell Newsweek.

    […] the source with knowledge of Comey’s request says that the FBI director wanted the Russian interference made public earlier and that it was a sluggish White House that denied Comey and delayed the announcement. “The White House shut it down,” that source says. “They did their usual—nothing.” Both sources spoke to Newsweek on the condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak to the press. (link)


    Funny how FBI Director James Comey, as relayed by his good friend Benjamin Wittes, was concerned about Trump’s potential innuendo of influence, but Director Comey was perfectly okay with Obama’s specific interference to block Comey’s intended investigative action.

    Additionally, the New York Times and Washington Post feeder pools are writing articles based on the hearsay recollections of Mr. Comey’s good friend Mr. Wittes. Those feeder stories are fueling second, third, fourth toward infinity level rehashes and revisions of the same structured woe-is-Jim narrative.

    When journalists write articles based on media reports of media reports, the concentric circles of self-serving sanctimony expand toward the infinite horizon of nothingness.


    Personally, I hope Benjamin Wittes keeps writing on behalf of, and with full approval of, his good friend James Comey. We are bound to find out much more about how severe the former FBI director was willing to go in advancement of his political objectives. After all…

    […] “This was a general preoccupation of Comey’s in the months he and Trump overlapped—and the difference between this relationship and his regard for Obama (which was deep) was profound and palpable”…

    Remember what we previously said about “motives“?

    All of the daily accusations against Trump, as presented by his political opposition and media, are based on the false premise that President Trump is carrying a malicious intent and self-interest.

    His political opposition seem to miss this structural flaw in their argument because they are not familiar with facing a political opponent who is absent of career self-interest, influence or power.

    The factual reality that Trump harbors no malicious disposition, evidences itself, and inevitably means all the attacks go nowhere. In every single manufactured media controversy President Trump is inherently never in a position where he is personally gaining from the details within the controversy du jour.

    […] Political Trump uses this “intent” and “motive” approach to draw attention to his opponents, and it is structurally successful because the opposition is, FACTUALLY, always holding a motive.

    When political Trump gets to the point where he’s ready to crush his opposition he simply points out their obvious motive and intent; it becomes common sense for the observing public to see it. Trump’s opposition cannot do the same. (more)


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    Re: Comey-Gate

    Is Comeygate still going on? When do we get a new gate? Comeygate is old news.
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    Re: Comey-Gate

    While President Trump visits foreign nations, the opposition at home continues to grow.

    Trump tried to connect the suffering American people to their government, an act of treason against the oligarchy, who are making an example of Trump that will dissuade politicians in the future from making populist appeals to the people.

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    Re: Comey-Gate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller View Post
    Is Comeygate still going on? When do we get a new gate? Comeygate is old news.
    I'd be saying that too if I supported Trump. It's a rather massive display of incompetence on his part. When he repeatedly says, publicly, that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation, then that leaves a person with few alternatives to defend the man.

    Then again, my main concern regarding this administration is this apparent incompetence and, from where I sit, his unsuitable temperament as POTUS.

    The rest is policy differences. We can discuss those, but that's likely to end up with snark instead of discussion. What would you prefer to talk about?
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    Tax reform?
    The budget?
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