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Urb Gruber
04-19-2013, 09:25 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9191768/big-ten-conference-realign-teams-replace-division-names-east-west-sources-say


PASADENA, Calif. -- Legends and Leaders are no more, as the Big Ten will use geography to determine its new divisions and division names beginning in the 2014 season.

The Big Ten will replace Legends and Leaders with East and West when Maryland and Rutgers join the league in 2014, league sources told ESPN.

The proposed Big Ten West includes the six teams located in the Central time zone -- Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern and Wisconsin -- plus Purdue, sources said. The proposed Big Ten East includes Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State and Rutgers.

"Just take a ruler and a map [and split the 14 teams]," a source said.

Big Ten presidents and chancellors are expected to approve the divisions and division names, along with a move to a nine-game conference schedule beginning in the 2016 season. The presidents and chancellors are expected to vote next week, a league source told ESPN.com.

ESPN.com reported last month that the divisions debate was down to whether Purdue or Indiana would go to the West. Purdue's campus is located west of Indiana's.

The Legends and Leaders divisions will remain for the 2013 season. The Legends: Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska and Northwestern; the Leaders: Indiana, Illinois, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue and Wisconsin.

With the new division format, rivals Indiana and Purdue will be the only protected game between teams from the East and West divisions, ESPN.com reported last month.

The Big Ten wants to create as much flexibility as possible with its league schedules.

A 10-game conference schedule, once considered by the league, is no longer a possibility because of the necessity of teams needing seven home games a year, a source said.

The Big Ten's initial division alignment for the 2011 season was based primarily on competitive balance rather than geography. Teams like Wisconsin and Illinois were moved in the opposite division from some of their rivals, and several top rivalries, like Michigan-Ohio State, were protected with crossover games.

When the Big Ten announced the Legends and Leaders names in 2010, it received some negative feedback.

In January, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany told ESPN he was a "little surprised" by the backlash received when the division names were announced.

"I'm not sure it was a national survey [of people that didn't like the names], but people who hit the 'send' button," Delany said in January. "I don't take umbrage to negative reaction. I don't necessarily change when I hear it. I think on the other hand, we said we would test market it and we have for a couple of years. We have the opportunity to look at it again."

When initially deciding on Legends and Leaders, Delany said the Big Ten "didn't have great options."

"We weren't going to go with 'Bo or Woody,' 'Black or Blue,' or 'Plains or Lakes,' " Delany said. "Obviously we got some acceptance [with Legends and Leaders], but not as much as we would have liked."

BamaHoHo
04-19-2013, 11:05 PM
Wooohh...East and West, that's catchy. Everybody wants to be like the SEC.

ugabrad
04-19-2013, 11:29 PM
Well, they certainly can't claim either Maryland or Rutgers as a legend or leader...

Storm
04-20-2013, 07:03 AM
it's ridiculous they were afraid of seeing osu/Michigan more than once a year so they put them in the same division. I guess they don't like making money

MKfromPA
04-20-2013, 08:43 AM
Well, they certainly can't claim either Maryland or Rutgers as a legend or leader...

Rutgers played in the first ever intercollegiate football game in 1869. Does that count for something?

It's about time the Big Ten gets it right with geographical divisions... thank goodness!

Herchel
04-20-2013, 08:48 AM
I think the names should be Whiners and Criers

GatorMan32
04-20-2013, 12:24 PM
Rutgers played in the first ever intercollegiate football game in 1869. Does that count for something?

It's about time the Big Ten gets it right with geographical divisions... thank goodness!

they definitely capitalized on that. mediocre longer than anyone else and all.

MKfromPA
05-03-2013, 04:43 PM
they definitely capitalized on that. mediocre longer than anyone else and all.

Who? Rutgers?

zud the hut
05-29-2013, 08:31 PM
I think the names should be Whiners and Criers

LOL! Zing..

socalwildcat
05-30-2013, 11:20 PM
Good riddance. They were silly names in the first place. Remember the old NHL divisions with nonsensical names?

Imagine, Indiana and Purdue...nothing in football since the 1960's, a factor.

I also wonder why this 'big" Big Ten announcement comes out of Pasadena, Calif. The conference is based in Indianapolis or Chicago. Is the Pac -12 dictating?

MKfromPA
06-20-2013, 09:45 AM
Good riddance. They were silly names in the first place. Remember the old NHL divisions with nonsensical names?

Imagine, Indiana and Purdue...nothing in football since the 1960's, a factor.

I also wonder why this 'big" Big Ten announcement comes out of Pasadena, Calif. The conference is based in Indianapolis or Chicago. Is the Pac -12 dictating?

Do you mean the Patrick, Adams, Norris, and Smythe divisions? Why were they "non-sensically" named? What's wrong with honoring the great coaches and true early innovators of the game? IMO at least they made sense. Leaders and Legends for the B10 did not. There were not great coaches only in the B10. To me that is what those names imply. Since the NHL was the only major professional hockey league at the time, that is where all the great coaches worked.