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Tennessee
02-18-2009, 07:09 AM
With UF going down and now KY going down, UT and SC now control their own fates for the SECE...That should give the Vols some motivation tonight, but OM is such a tough place to play...They already beat KY when Kentucky was hot and they gave LSU all they could handle last week

Should be a good game in the Magnolia State this evening :cheers:

Rocky@theTop
02-18-2009, 10:15 AM
Mississippi 79
Tennessee 75

RailroadGin
02-18-2009, 10:23 AM
I think the key matchups will be Malcolm White vs Wayne Chism and Murphy Holloway vs Tyler Smith. Tennessee has an advantage in both of these. We'll most likely zone quite a bit. Hopefully UT won't shoot well from 3. Go Rebs!!

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-18-2009, 07:55 PM
AHHHHHHH, I hate not being able to go. This is the first SEC game I've missed. Holloway is the most underrated player in the SEC

orange&white
02-18-2009, 07:58 PM
Should come down to the last minute.

skydogj
02-18-2009, 08:02 PM
what channel is this on?
Directv

Raycom coverage



found it!
648 FSSa

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-18-2009, 08:04 PM
It's on channel 7 for me

skydogj
02-18-2009, 08:06 PM
It's on channel 7 for me

you in Oxford?

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-18-2009, 08:10 PM
I go to Ole Miss, so yeah...

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-18-2009, 08:20 PM
Hahahaha who was it that just took about a 12 step spin move for UT?

SECgamecock453
02-18-2009, 08:25 PM
Gay. I'm getting NCSU vs UNC on Raycom. Boooring..

skydogj
02-18-2009, 08:27 PM
I go to Ole Miss, so yeah...

I go to Ole Miss too..but live in Pontotoc

SECgamecock453
02-18-2009, 08:28 PM
So REBEL5 why couldn't you go if you're sitting here posting on SECF? :P

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-18-2009, 09:15 PM
So REBEL5 why couldn't you go if you're sitting here posting on SECF? :P

I'm sick...flu

45-35 Ole Miss

bleedorange1983
02-18-2009, 09:21 PM
This game is an embarassment

MSUado
02-18-2009, 10:03 PM
congrats rebs.

What a dominating win.

Orangetd88
02-18-2009, 10:05 PM
This loss and the Auburn loss will hurt next month.

Inexcusable.

OffThePorch
02-18-2009, 10:09 PM
Congrats Rebels! good win...

orange&white
02-18-2009, 10:25 PM
Congrats Rebs. That was as ugly performance as I've seen from the Vols in a couple years. Tennessee still need two wins to get in the tourney.

Djshockley3
02-18-2009, 10:26 PM
Ole Miss is a pretty solid team, just imagine if they had those 3 great players back and healthy. I'm sure they will destroy UGA on Saturday.

OffThePorch
02-18-2009, 10:40 PM
seems the East & West might be about the same. we've beaten USC & UK so far.

orange&white
02-18-2009, 10:44 PM
seems the East & West might be about the same. we've beaten USC & UK so far.

Been pretty even so far. East is 13-12 against the West.

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-18-2009, 11:04 PM
How many wins do you need for the tourney?

Cap'n
02-18-2009, 11:06 PM
Dang I wish I could have gone, but I was stuck at home studying for a couple of tests. What a huge win. So now we have wins over Kentucky and Tennessee at home. Nice.

AC, it sucks that you have the flu. It's going around at Ole Miss. My girlfriend found out today that she has it so I'm hoping I don't end up getting it. I know several other people who have it.

RailroadGin
02-18-2009, 11:16 PM
Dang I wish I could have gone, but I was stuck at home studying for a couple of tests. What a huge win. So now we have wins over Kentucky and Tennessee at home. Nice.

AC, it sucks that you have the flu. It's going around at Ole Miss. My girlfriend found out today that she has it so I'm hoping I don't end up getting it. I know several other people who have it.

Hmmm sounds like AC's been smoochin on your girl and gave her the crud. I wouldn't stand for it!!!!

weegeman
02-18-2009, 11:49 PM
I've looked at all the SEC teams' remaining schedules and I think Ole Miss has the easiest remaining schedule of any team. I think the Rebels could go 5-1 in their last six games and really shake things up.

Djshockley3
02-19-2009, 12:08 AM
How many wins do you need for the tourney?

NCAA Tourney or NIT? NCAA you guys will probly need to go 10-6 in the SEC.

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-19-2009, 09:15 AM
NCAA Tourney or NIT? NCAA you guys will probly need to go 10-6 in the SEC.

Remaining schedule:

UGA
@ AU(demolished them the first game)
Bama
@OurKansas
MSU

We are 5-6 right now, we definitely have a good shot of making the Tourney, especially with wins against UK and UT, that loss @ LSU hurts big time.

OffThePorch
02-19-2009, 09:23 AM
UM is 14-11 & 5-6... the Dance is not within reach unless the Tourney is won. they certainly wont win out imo.
we're 17-9 & 7-4 and i dont think we make it.

Thunder Gulch
02-19-2009, 09:54 AM
The only way they go to the NCAA tournament is if they win the SEC tournament. Even if they ran the table on the regular season, there aren't any wins over NCAA tourney teams in that last five to boost their profile. I'm impressed with the way they have held things together, but it just isn't going to happen this year.

OffThePorch
02-19-2009, 03:12 PM
both UM & MSU might be doing the NIT this season.

RailroadGin
02-19-2009, 03:29 PM
i'm starting to think we might be able to make the NCAAT. Not due to our resume but rather the SECT. If we can somehow manage to take the 2 seed from MSU and Auburn, I like our team on a neutral court. LSU is really the only team that we don't matchup well with and even then I think we have a good shot. I just think our team is built to be able to win something like the SECT. We have multiple scorers and are starting to rebound well. We've improved the entire season and are playing our best ball now. Hopefully things continue that way. Go Rebs!!

kentubbybasketball
02-19-2009, 03:37 PM
I think Ole Miss needs to downright win the SECT to get in the NCAAT (a la UGA last year). I just don't see the resume strength right now for an at large bid, especially if UK and USC are double digit seeds in the big tourney like the projections suggest.

RailroadGin
02-19-2009, 03:40 PM
Reread my post KT

OffThePorch
02-19-2009, 03:43 PM
rrg.. good luck with that dream. 14-11 & 5-6 in a weak SEC is just that.

RailroadGin
02-19-2009, 03:47 PM
rrg.. good luck with that dream. 14-11 & 5-6 in a weak SEC is just that.

Good luck with a dream of winning the SECT? You yourself just admitted the SEC is weak. All I said was if we can get a first round bye, I like our chances at winning 3 in a row with the way we've been playing recently.

OffThePorch
02-19-2009, 03:50 PM
Good luck with a dream of winning the SECT? You yourself just admitted the SEC is weak. All I said was if we can get a first round bye, I like our chances at winning 3 in a row with the way we've been playing recently.

hope can be a terrible thing.

kentubbybasketball
02-19-2009, 03:51 PM
Reread my post KT

Why? I know exactly what you're saying, and I'm not debating it. I'm just adding to what you said, since it's a topic you brought up. I don't think you'll win the SECT, but stranger things have happened.

RailroadGin
02-19-2009, 03:51 PM
OTP- you make it sounds like it's an absurd thought. I think Ole Miss has more than shown itself capable of winning 3-4 in a row.

orange&white
02-19-2009, 03:53 PM
I just don't see the Rebels winning the SEC tourney, but who could have seen UGA winning it last year.

kentubbybasketball
02-19-2009, 03:53 PM
I think any number of 9 teams could win four in a row, and Ole Miss is one of them, but their chances aren't as great as some of that other eight IMO.

kentubbybasketball
02-19-2009, 03:54 PM
I just don't see the Rebels winning the SEC tourney, but who could have seen UGA winning it last year.

Let's not forget the homecourt advantage (although it was Tech's gym) that UGA had in Atlanta though. Also, the storms just made things bizarre. This year if anybody needs to be counting on an SECT win, maybe it's LSU or Florida, since LSU is the best team and Florida is the pseudo home team.

And, I'd throw us in there too, not because we're Kentucky, but you can't underestimate a guy like Jodie Meeks or Patrick Patterson in a tournament setting. Sometimes, what you need is one guy to carry your team, and Jodie is well-capable of that.

MSUado
02-19-2009, 03:55 PM
OTP- you make it sounds like it's an absurd thought. I think Ole Miss has more than shown itself capable of winning 3-4 in a row.

8 wins will not get you a 2 seed in the tourny. It's always possible that Ole Miss can win four in a row in the tourny but its about as unlikely as Georgia's run last year.

OffThePorch
02-19-2009, 03:55 PM
OTP- you make it sounds like it's an absurd thought. I think Ole Miss has more than shown itself capable of winning 3-4 in a row.

not absurd... ive been there..
3 wins in 3 days getting tougher teams every day.. . i was thinking UM had depth issues. & 5-6 so far does not equal 3-0 in my mind. there is a chance so ride that chance. just be prepared for the reality.

kentubbybasketball
02-19-2009, 03:58 PM
I think Ole Miss is banking on wins over UK and UT though... both of which were at home, and while that doesn't guarantee anything, I think Ole Miss is that team that from time to time knocks off somebody that they shouldn't. Every league has one: a team that just plays the spoiler role.

With that said AK is a good coach, and I wouldn't put anything past him. I'm just not sure. Ole Miss is likely to have a tough first round game against maybe Vandy if they get the West's #4 seed.

RailroadGin
02-19-2009, 04:02 PM
I wasn't predicting it as much as saying I like our chances. We won three in a row (UK, @MSU, and Aub) earlier this year. Played UF and LSU close on the road. If we finish 4-1 over the next 5 games (UGA, @AUB, Bama, @ Ark, MSU) which I think is very possible, then we finish 9-7 in the SEC. If that's good enough to get us a 2 seed (MSU would have to finish 2-3) I like our chances.

OffThePorch
02-19-2009, 04:20 PM
I wasn't predicting it as much as saying I like our chances. We won three in a row (UK, @MSU, and Aub) earlier this year. Played UF and LSU close on the road. If we finish 4-1 over the next 5 games (UGA, @AUB, Bama, @ Ark, MSU) which I think is very possible, then we finish 9-7 in the SEC. If that's good enough to get us a 2 seed (MSU would have to finish 2-3) I like our chances.

imo UGA is the only for sure win on there. MSU is just as likely to win at UM as UM was to win at our place. we play looser on the road sometimes. anyway good luck!

RailroadGin
02-19-2009, 04:24 PM
Phil Turner actually looks like Bam Doyne- just with more skills.

MSUado
02-19-2009, 04:24 PM
Phil Turner actually looks like Bam Doyne- just with more skills.

and without the really cool name. Bam Doyne haha, hilarious.

OffThePorch
02-19-2009, 04:27 PM
and without the really cool name. Bam Doyne haha, hilarious.

its cool. Bam Bam Doyne wouldve been even cooler. :lol:

kentubbybasketball
02-19-2009, 04:27 PM
Phil Turner actually looks like Bam Doyne- just with more skills.

I can see that, but I think Turner was at least 3 or 4 inches taller too, which allows him to defend up some. Doyne really benefitted from your coaching change... he averaged 15 ppg as a senior, and I didn't realize he had that in him.

MSUado
02-19-2009, 04:28 PM
I can see that, but I think Turner was at least 3 or 4 inches taller too, which allows him to defend up some. Doyne really benefitted from your coaching change... he averaged 15 ppg as a senior, and I didn't realize he had that in him.

Phil Turner is only 6'3".

He is an absolute freak of an athlete though. Probably the best jumper on our team.

kentubbybasketball
02-19-2009, 04:29 PM
Oh, he just seems taller to me when I watch him... more like 6'5ish.

GoBigO
02-19-2009, 05:18 PM
Sorry for the late entry but congrats Ole Miss for the win. You guys showed up to play...the Vols, not so much. Simple as that. Now it appears that nobody wants to win the East. Guess we'll see this Saturday in Lexington. :rolleyes:

NCMISSSTFAN
02-19-2009, 06:19 PM
Ole Miss has something going over there and it scares me. Imagine what this team would be like with a completetly healthy roster.

MSUado
02-19-2009, 06:21 PM
The loser of this game is virtually out of the East race IMO.

Nkemdiche4Heisman5
02-19-2009, 08:09 PM
Why? I know exactly what you're saying, and I'm not debating it. I'm just adding to what you said, since it's a topic you brought up. I don't think you'll win the SECT, but stranger things have happened.

http://www.accessnorthga.com/img/stories/208056/billy_humphrey2_medium.jpg

Djshockley3
02-19-2009, 08:22 PM
Really, if UGA won it last year anyone can win it.

kentubbybasketball
02-20-2009, 04:14 PM
http://www.accessnorthga.com/img/stories/208056/billy_humphrey2_medium.jpg

Funny you should bring that up. Historically, I think I'd have a longer list if I listed the expected champs compared to your list of unexpected champs.

Thunder Gulch
02-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Four pages and counting about the 4th place team in the West making the tournament...slow week.

RailroadGin
02-20-2009, 05:45 PM
Funny you should bring that up. Historically, I think I'd have a longer list if I listed the expected champs compared to your list of unexpected champs.

In the words of your boy Rick Pitino, Jamal Mashburn, Antoine Walker, and Ron Mercer "ain't walking through that door."

I get your point- usually a team that wins is one of the better teams in the league. However, Arkansas and Georgia both won when they shouldn't have in the last 10 year. 2 in 10 is 20%. Not quite as longshot as you think.

kentubbybasketball
02-20-2009, 05:59 PM
Arkansas's win was in 2000... UGA's in 2008... if we're going on a eight year cycle, 2009 isn't the year.

I think 80% in the past ten years is case enough for my point.

RailroadGin
02-20-2009, 06:08 PM
Arkansas's win was in 2000... UGA's in 2008... if we're going on a eight year cycle, 2009 isn't the year.

I think 80% in the past ten years is case enough for my point.

Again my point stands. 1 in 5 SECT winners is someone unexpected.

kentubbybasketball
02-20-2009, 06:24 PM
And, the most recent happened last year... your point doesn't stand as firm as mine based on that very fact.

kentubbybasketball
02-20-2009, 06:28 PM
And, BTW, to your point about Monster Mash not walking thru that door... he's not walking thru anybody else's door either. Let's face it, the reasons your giving for Ole Miss maybe shocking the world and winning the SECT are the same reasons about 75% of the league could give for why they should win the SECT too.

RailroadGin
02-20-2009, 06:53 PM
Ah but that only validates their arguments- it doesn't hurt mine

kentubbybasketball
02-23-2009, 12:44 PM
If there's validation for an argument that's against yours, it does indeed hurt the argument you're making.

RailroadGin
02-23-2009, 02:39 PM
If there's validation for an argument that's against yours, it does indeed hurt the argument you're making.

Not necessarily. They are the same argument. The fact that someone unexpected wins the SECT 1 out of 5 times is the argument. The fact that there are other teams beside Ole Miss who fit this criteria doesn't mean Ole Miss is less likely.

kentubbybasketball
02-23-2009, 04:09 PM
The fact that you're saying one in 5 (based only on the past 10 years... of a 70 or 80 league nonetheless) when it happened just last year would seem to indicate it's not due for another 3 or 4 maybe 5 years.

I digress though.

RailroadGin
02-23-2009, 05:10 PM
The fact that you're saying one in 5 (based only on the past 10 years... of a 70 or 80 league nonetheless) when it happened just last year would seem to indicate it's not due for another 3 or 4 maybe 5 years.

I digress though.

You would be right- if things actually were constant like that. I could say that in 2007 a favorite won and 2008 a surprise team won, therefore this year a favorite should win- but that would be ridiculous. The SECT is what? 30 years old since the 25 year hiatus? I took into account the last 10 year- my bad. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't make their argument invalid. You can act like a know-it-all like you always do and that's fine. But at some point you have to see your own annoyance. Sometimes it gets very tiring. We know what you think about Jodie Meeks. We know what you think about Tubby Smith. We understand that Kentucky is very tradition rich. And by all means we know you love SEC basketball. What else do you have to offer?

kentubbybasketball
02-23-2009, 06:28 PM
It takes two to tango. You obviously think you "know it all" also, otherwise, we wouldn't be going in circles, spinning our wheels quite frankly.

BTW, if you know I love SEC basketball... what more is there for me to add. Honestly, I talk more about all the other SEC hoops programs than any other person on this board, so let's not act like I'm stuck on Jodie Meeks, UK, and Tubby Smith all the time.

Anyway, about the SECT... good luck winning. It's a very balanced league this year and maybe AK pulls out the rabbitt, but I doubt it, winning four games in four days is tough.