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Herchel
01-27-2017, 03:43 PM
1 1
Alabama
Alabama
Total: 25 5: 5 4: 15 3: 4 Avg: 92.88
311.20


2 2
Georgia
Georgia
Total: 23 5: 2 4: 18 3: 3 Avg: 93.34
299.29


3 3
LSU
LSU
Total: 21 5: 1 4: 12 3: 8 Avg: 90.96
272.26


4 6
1
Texas A&M
Texas A&M
Total: 26 5: 0 4: 9 3: 17 Avg: 88.18
247.52


5 4
-1
Auburn
Auburn
Total: 19 5: 1 4: 9 3: 9 Avg: 89.41
245.55


6 5
Tennessee
Tennessee
Total: 28 5: 1 4: 4 3: 23 Avg: 87.11
236.23


7 7
South Carolina
South Carolina
Total: 22 5: 0 4: 4 3: 18 Avg: 86.75
216.73


8 9
1
Kentucky
Kentucky
Total: 23 5: 0 4: 4 3: 19 Avg: 86.07
207.69


9 10
1
Mississippi State
Mississippi State
Total: 20 5: 0 4: 3 3: 16 Avg: 85.93
201.76




10 8
1
Arkansas
Arkansas
Total: 22 5: 0 4: 3 3: 19 Avg: 85.97
201.50


11 12
-3
Florida
Florida
Total: 14 5: 0 4: 6 3: 8 Avg: 88.52
198.24


12 11
Missouri
Missouri
Total: 22 5: 0 4: 0 3: 21 Avg: 84.43
181.36


13 13
Ole Miss
Ole Miss
Total: 14 5: 0 4: 2 3: 12 Avg: 86.28
173.08


14 14
Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt
Total: 15 5: 0 4: 0 3: 15 Avg: 84.27
157.24

boxvic
01-27-2017, 05:35 PM
Its funny to see UK listed at 8 in the conference but 24 in the country. It's great that we are landing consecutive top 30 recruiting classes... its just funny to say that you are 24th out of all recruiting classes in the entire country, but 8th in your conference.

Bama_Man
01-27-2017, 05:54 PM
Bama can sign like 30 kids, I figure we can maintain an overall point lead but looks like tOSU, UGA and possibly FSU have a higher average.

BamaHoHo
01-27-2017, 07:52 PM
Bama can sign like 30 kids, I figure we can maintain an overall point lead but looks like tOSU, UGA and possibly FSU have a higher average.

The 2 star long snapper is pulling our average down. But he is a very important recruit.

Bama_Man
01-27-2017, 11:54 PM
The 2 star long snapper is pulling our average down. But he is a very important recruit.

I trust the staff completely, a 2* LS might weigh down an average but if Alabama still lands a top 2-3 class while losing Cristobal to Oregon, I'll be very impressed.

planetalker
01-28-2017, 07:20 AM
The 2 star long snapper is pulling our average down. But he is a very important recruit.

This is why these things are not a good indicator of much. Each team needs to evaluate talent based on their needs. A 2 star recruit that fills a need is much more important than a 5 star that is not a problem area on your team.

The Zou
01-30-2017, 03:13 PM
Its funny to see UK listed at 8 in the conference but 24 in the country. It's great that we are landing consecutive top 30 recruiting classes... its just funny to say that you are 24th out of all recruiting classes in the entire country, but 8th in your conference.


This is why these things are not a good indicator of much. Each team needs to evaluate talent based on their needs. A 2 star recruit that fills a need is much more important than a 5 star that is not a problem area on your team.

Mizzou did a lot of damage for a lot of years with mainly 3* talent; it has never been typical to have more than a couple kids higher than 3*... and some of them never turned out. (http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/DGB/)

While we won a lot of games, made & won pretty decent bowl games & even won SEC-E in 2 of 3 years entering the conference, what we have NEVER been able to do with 3* talent is win conference championships. Bama beat us up pretty bad twice, and we struggled to win Big 12 championship games against OU teams that are 4-5* loaded.

When we were on those runs... we typically ranked in the 20-30 range -- it was a lot of fun, but I think we pushed the 3* game to the max and couldn't win Conf. Championships.

Bama_Man
01-30-2017, 04:55 PM
Mizzou did a lot of damage for a lot of years with mainly 3* talent; it has never been typical to have more than a couple kids higher than 3*... and some of them never turned out. (http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/DGB/)

While we won a lot of games, made & won pretty decent bowl games & even won SEC-E in 2 of 3 years entering the conference, what we have NEVER been able to do with 3* talent is win conference championships. Bama beat us up pretty bad twice, and we struggled to win Big 12 championship games against OU teams that are 4-5* loaded.

When we were on those runs... we typically ranked in the 20-30 range -- it was a lot of fun, but I think we pushed the 3* game to the max and couldn't win Conf. Championships.

I remember when you guys landed DGB. Everyone thought that was the first in a line of Mizzou landed elite kids, butnhe was a head case and never panned out.

Was Aldon Smith a 3* guy or was he higher?

The Zou
01-30-2017, 05:58 PM
I remember when you guys landed DGB. Everyone thought that was the first in a line of Mizzou landed elite kids, butnhe was a head case and never panned out.

Was Aldon Smith a 3* guy or was he higher?

He was one of the many 3* that turned out big; for a while we had a habit of landing hidden gems like Aldon... that simply didn't get the recognition. In his case, his stats in HS were good (... but not exceptional). He also may have been hampered a bit by the lack of interest in recruiting our state; athletes here probably have to work a lot harder to promote themselves than across the south...

But we also did really well finding 3* guys that were overlooked in TX; the challenges for those guys is different, as its harder to stand out in that state (... but there is plenty of exposure/focus on the state).

Drew Lock (current QB) was an in-state 4* and #6 ranked QB in his class; we also have a 5* DT Terry Becknam Jr (from St. Louis) who is coming off of injury. We're looking at a 4* reciever this year who is also from in-state, DaRon Davis.

You can probably see a pattern by now -- we don't land 4/5 stars often that aren't in-state....

Dawg in Dallas
01-30-2017, 06:08 PM
This is why these things are not a good indicator of much. Each team needs to evaluate talent based on their needs. A 2 star recruit that fills a need is much more important than a 5 star that is not a problem area on your team.

Especially when your team is composed of so many 4 and 5 star players. When you don't have a roster composed like that (and very few do), a 5 star player is probably an upgrade over your existing talent. Not everyone is Alabama.

The Zou
01-30-2017, 06:26 PM
Especially when your team is composed of so many 4 and 5 star players. When you don't have a roster composed like that (and very few do), a 5 star player is probably an upgrade over your existing talent. Not everyone is Alabama.

(... or GA)

The Zou
01-30-2017, 06:27 PM
Btw... I just noticed that FL is crapping the bed on this class. Didn't see that coming...

The Zou
01-30-2017, 06:48 PM
This is why these things are not a good indicator of much. Each team needs to evaluate talent based on their needs. A 2 star recruit that fills a need is much more important than a 5 star that is not a problem area on your team.

To your point:


...

That alone is neither surprising nor particularly problematic. Mizzou fans can obviously point to recent history as a reason for why recruiting rankings are only so useful. When the Tigers went 10-3 in 2010, for instance, their last three classes had an average ranking of 29.3. When they finished in the AP top 5 in 2013, their five-year average ranking was 37.4.

Dawg in Dallas
01-30-2017, 07:08 PM
(... or GA)

Well that is true, though UGA has been a step below Bama for years. If this class holds it will be a tribute to the work of the new staff, as it is a historically good class for UGA AND it fits needs.

lbzdually
01-31-2017, 06:08 PM
Well that is true, though UGA has been a step below Bama for years. If this class holds it will be a tribute to the work of the new staff, as it is a historically good class for UGA AND it fits needs.

Exactly, needs are as important as stars. It just so happens UGA has both this year. Best OL class in the history of UGA, and one of the deepest at WR than I can recall. UGA needed big WR's and Smart wants big DB's and he got both. I think a lot of people are underestimating how important Fromm will be this year. They said he learned the playbook for the Army game so well and so fast, that 2 days after receiving the playbook, he knew the plays better than the coaches and actually corrected his coach when the coach lined people up wrong.

BigBamaFan
02-01-2017, 12:25 PM
Btw... I just noticed that FL is crapping the bed on this class. Didn't see that coming...
Florida just landed Henderson big get